In our modern day and age, most Americans tend to think of the Republican party as the political party that supports gun rights and the Democratic party as the party seeking more gun control. And these generalizations are often pretty accurate. After all, you don’t see the Democratic party courting the support of the NRA.
Sadly, though, one prominent Republican Senator looks like he is trying to pull out the rug from gun owners. Paul McLeod gives us the details:
Senate Judiciary Committee chair Lindsey Graham told BuzzFeed News he will start crafting legislation next week to expand police powers to preemptively seize firearms from people believed to be a danger to themselves or others.
Graham is angling to get bipartisan support for his bill, and has been in discussions with Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal. Neither would outline specifics Thursday beyond saying it will be an original piece of legislation. Graham said work on hammering out the contents of the bill will begin next week.
Despite a string of mass shootings in recent years, Congress has not taken action on any significant new gun control measures, only authorizing funding to improve the national background checks system.
Graham told BuzzFeed News on Thursday his bill will provide grants to states that pass extreme risk protection orders, or ERPOs. Also known as “red flag laws,” they allow judges to authorize police to temporarily seize a person’s guns, with no advance notice, if there are grounds to believe the person may commit a violent act.
“I’m seeking to incentivize states to produce extreme risk protective order legislation that has ample due process but also is meaningful in protecting the public from somebody who is dangerous,” said Graham.
Now, you might be tempted to discount this story based on the source (it is Buzzfeed after all, one of the major sources of celebrity gossip on the web). Still, like most every other celebrity gossip site, Buzzfeed has their anti-gun agenda, and they have no reason to lie about this legislative action. It’s exactly the kind of thing that they want passed.
And this legislation is exactly the kind of bill that we want killed in committee. Why? Because red flag laws don’t work. Gun control doesn’t work.
The only way to ensure the safety and freedom of American citizens is to support gun rights, and that means opposing anything that promotes red flag laws. We need to let Lindsey Graham know that we, like the elephant that is the Republican party mascot, will never forget if he betrays us on gun rights by promoting this bill.
Red Flag laws are just a disguised attempt at gun control. You have murderous cops on the streets they kill at will .Can you imagine any situation where anyone needs to be shot 41 times. Well the police did. They routinely shoot people 10 or more times because they thought they had a gun or I was in fear of my life so I blasted the hell out of them. What happens well the police take a look and find a justification for the use of force.They never go into it looking for was there another way. If they did there would be a lot more police in prison and there should be. I we do not do something about the continuous police shootings people will be scared a start shooting first. We need law and order but this includes the police.
Of course you have the name of the deceased, and the time and date, and place where this eight-foot tall, three hundred fifty pound, vicious killer cop murdered, or rather, slaughtered, this poor misunderstood choir boy victim, presumably while he was taking Communion at church? Was this the one where the cop, cigar in mouth, and Browning M-2 under his arm, kicked the church doors open, wounded fifty nuns, and then blew this poor boy away, firing 41 consecutive shots in a perfect vertical line, so the kid was split apart, while the kid begged and pleaded for his life? That one?
What the hell are you talking about ?
He’s proving a point.
Alan, Have you ever been on a “ride-along” with a police officer at night? Due to the need to cover the large and ever growing areas of congestion in our cities, the days of officers patrolling in pairs is a memory of “back-in-the day”. Most officers are out there alone and a simple traffic stop is a bone chilling experience, that requires an officer to do his job, regardless of the danger involved. To often, the person stopped is angry, belligerent, and has been consuming alcohol or drugs. Lethal force is always the last resort, but a lone officer cannot risk losing a non-lethal physical engagement, because possession of his weapon in the wrong hands could well cost him his life.
If you and those of like mind, have never been in those circumstances, try to focus on this fact, people that are respectful and cooperative when interacting with a police officer, doing his/her job, they will have nothing to fear. I can’t understand why you are so concerned with how many bullets the police used to end the threat. If the first one killed the subject, the other rounds were not felt. Gunfights are not the same as target practice. The object is to survive and that requires getting busy, with overwhelming force. How would you proceed to save your own life, assuming you had the courage to do the job, that we ask these courageous officers to do?
Anyone that thinks shooting at police first is a good idea is an absolute moron, Gooch!
I never implied some one should shoot at the police. I merely stated what are we going to do with these rampant unnecessary police shootings. When the equally armed citizen starts shooting first out of their fear for their life. You have to be either a cop or cop lover to jump to jump to a stupid conclusions on a statement that you changed the meaning of. Yes, shooting an unarmed man 41 times is murder period. This means at least 4 police emptied their pistols or reloaded. This would be murder too. I guess the unarmed black man that was shot in the back deserved it too. I have nothing but respect for police that do the correct thing,but contempt for those that do not!! As for me calling police for anything. I think not I’ll handle it.Alan Gooch
Frankly Alan, your comments allow for your stupidity to show. Sure there are bad cops, but in time, they are usually weeded out. Sure there are even not properly trained police officers … that make errors, most usually in regards to self preservation, as in a one on one situation, a lot of people might make. But these are public servants, often put into non realistic situations while on the streets. Their goals beyond trying to protect and serve, are to go home to their families at end of shift … and in that goal, sometimes fear takes hold, and they shoot the bad guy, as their choices are, spend seconds thinking about their alternatives, or acting NOW. Maybe they aren’t getting the training, they need, or maybe they aren’t being given by the bad guy, the time to choose a less life threatening alternative.
The problem with some of the police is the power over the general public has gone to their heads, they think they are god and you are a dog. BS. I speak of a first hand experience. No, I did NOT disrespect him first. And I am not his dam dog either. He is a scumbag with a gun and a badge.
Good Point… Most people would piss themselves (unless they were a decorated veteran) during a ride-along and certainly would be extremely fearful if someone was placed into custody and they either had to ride up front or find their way home..
While I’m all for Us being aloud our respective freedoms, there ARE THOSE who abuse any system to their advantage, and (opinion) I believe this is what and where this proposed legislation is directed at, and not the honest gun owner, or at least I Hope Not??
The ERPO or Gun Confiscation “law” was past in Maryland. The police have already SHOT and KILLED a man who did not have a record of one offense. The first cop grabbed for the handgun. The officer behind him shot and KILLED the elderly man. The shooting was deemed as legitimate. I contend it is excessive force. One does not GRAB for a gun held in someone else’s hands. The police, in this instance were the AGGRESSORS which brought about the discharges. One of which KILLED the law abiding elderly man.
You couldn’t be more wrong! There’s a first time for every criminal and/or anyone else. Grabbing for the gun is always a possible remedy under certain circumstances. Given the circumstances stated, the force was both reasonable & prudent & adjudged as so by the Prosecutor. This is not a game !
Sorry Richard, Laddyboy is right on this one! Cops came to this home at 4:30am to get this man’s gun. They went there looking for trouble, and an innocent law abiding citizen is dead because of a couple of cocky cops, instead of waiting for a reasonable hour, went to this man’s door in the wee hours of the morning and resulted in a dead innocent, all because the man’s sister told the police “SHE didn’t feel comfortable with HIM having a gun in HIS home”! No crime committed, no mental problems, no health risks, just his sister’s “discomfort”.
now she gets to inherent his stuff
Laddyboy, you forgot to mention, the cops came to this man’s door at 4:30am! If someone comes banging on my door at that hour, you can bet your last dollar I’m coming to the door armed!
You were doing so well
You might want to reconsider this proposal.
You are stepping in it big time when you mess with our firearms.
When guns become illegal, I will be a criminal, as the T shirt says.
I figure you will be voted out at earliest opportunity. Count on it.
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we will NOT be disarmed. Nor will we allow any further chipping away .
In fact, the gun laws are illegal according to the U.S. CONSTITUTION.
Follow Missouri’s lead.
They got it RIGHT!!
You are right. Lindsey Graham was doing well. NOW THIS? Why does Lindsey Graham want to to punish decent, honest citizens for the acts of the criminals that are allowed to run loose in today’s America.
Naval Amphibious Forces veteran
Hannity; Why with all of the Swamp is being covered, but things like the 2nd Amendment assault is not being brought out, ask Lindsey Graham about his stand and turncoat agenda to sponsor legislation supporting the Red Flag Laws, against Legal Gun Owners, if going to be used it should cover all persons not just gun owners, as the ways these Laws are being used!
The decent, honest citizens will longer have guns. The criminals will always have guns. The decent, honest citizens will be defenseless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the what??
Who gets to decide if a person needs their guns removed… a judge??? Hoe ridiculous is that? Any liberal neighbors could report anyone with a gun to police for weird, questionable behavior when there is none. It puts the innocent ones on the defense. It opens the door for major problems! Mr Graham, step away from this proposal immediately or prepare to lose your golden seat! Your followers will rebel.
Shades of NY’s Sullivan Law where a criminal seeking to disarm an innocent person as a prelude to mayhem – or worse – needs only to complain to police that the intended victim “menaced” the attacker with his gun. No investigation; just confiscation and an injured or dead victim. ERPO laws spread that scheme nationwide.
Lindsey: SHOVE IT’!!!!!!!!!!
So even this m0r0n is too clueless that what they’re REALLY going to do is start a Civil War….
Cuz we’re NEVER giving up our guns,, EVER !
This is a back door way and a slap in the face of AMERICAN freedoms against the 2nd amendment.
If this is allowed we will have a civil war as neighbors will not trust one another and and innocent people will be arrested and even worst innocent people “WILL BE KILLED” during any tries of enforcing this “UTTERLY” stupid type of law. There will be unwarranted deaths on both sides, civilians and law enforcement. This type of law will pit neighbor against neighbor and just because someone gets their feelings hurt they can become vindictive and file a complaint without any PROOF. Just another way that the liberal socialist TYRANTS can take over.
Joe You are so true. We have recently learned that accusations require no evidence or proof. All we need now is a good imagination and excellent negotiator to round up some witnesses. So we’re not even talking about a dangerous gun owner being mentally ill. All we need now is a family member or acquaintance who dislikes guns. Wether a gun owner is mentally ill, or sane in the brain, asking people with loaded guns to go surprise other people with loaded guns to confiscate them is a recipe for disaster. This type of procedure should start by using a sedating dart gun to calm things down. Duh. If the cops were going to deliver a chocolate cake, or $500, or even a summons to appear in court, things would go much smoother.
All I want Lindsey Graham to do is INfuckingVESTIGATE the criminals who just tried to over ride a fairly and duly elected president. And HRC hasn’t done one legal action since birth. The country needs to see the criminals affecting ALL our lives, treated like what they are. The relations between conservatives and liberals will only get steamier as long as one side gets away with cheating and lieing. Then add guns to the mix, and conservatives will eventually boil over. The walked on humiliated Republicans will run out of patience. Already, I can’t view FOX anymore, because I’m loosing it just hearing the same crap repeatedly like a broken record.
How can liberals be so dense to treat us like dish rags when we are the armed party!?
More than just the 2nd; also the 4th and 5th as well. The 5th plainly states in its third provision, “No one hall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process and property without just compensation.” Take something then ***pay for it***. Thou shalt not steal.
I believe that the greedy house and senate should keep their hands off the 2nd amendment , they are just wasting tax money and filling their pocket at the same time what a total waste time and money gun controlhas never worked and never , just like the war on drugs
“Gun control” is not intended to fight crime or protect anybody. Its sole purpose is to establish a government monopoly on gun ownership and enslave the people.
Graham has always been a traitor . Gang of 8. All for amnesty . Gave Obama everything he wanted . Now he is still doing what both him and McCain wanted to do . Obstructed Trump for 2 years . Only the death of McCain gave him a backbone only he can love .
This proposed law is unconstitutional and any true American patriot should know it that. Confiscation of property is illegal whether by a thief or government employees. The liberal mind set in this country does not conform to the constitutional rights of American citizens. I care if you are a Democrat or Republican you asking for another civil war in America and I pretty sure most veterans are willing to fight for our freedom.
I am not sure how these red flag laws will survive review by higher courts. It is blatantly unconstitutional in that it denies due process.
Yes indeed these “red flag” laws are unconstitutional….so are all the laws regulating the 2nd Amendment. We are destined for Civil War 2.0 if our Constitutional Rights are infringed upon by Marxists infiltrators that are in our government offices at the present date.
Thank God there really are people out there thinking the red flag law is bad. It has caused the death of at least three people. Because gestapo minded police show up and demand persons give up their personal protection,not to mention expensive personal property. When they roll up with a gestapo mind set it can only go wrong. Even if they do not roll up with a poor mind set, they are still on private property,trying to steal personal protection. I know some of you think,just give them what they want,and go to court and get it back. When has anyone ever heard of getting guns back from police. They always turn out to be lost or missing. This is out of the secure evidence police property room. Most people know this and I’m sure this adds to refusing to surrender firearms. Lindsey Graham it’s time for you to find another job. I wouldn’t vote for you now!!
Hurricane Katrina shows what to expect. New Orleans was sued and the court ordered that all guns be returned but Nagin gave the finger to the court and the people. Last I heard, Nagin was in jail; he certainly belongs there.
doesn’t really matter to the dead guy
Leave the Second Amendment a lone
So you want to use our money to fight our gun rights, Bull! If you think I might cause someone harm then arrest me. I can tell you if you try to confiscate my legally owned weapons you will get a fight you wish you had not started!
and like the other guy you will be dead
when SWAT surrounds your house at 4;AM its to late
I don’t care if you’re aDem. Or a Rep. the second amendment is for every American citizen. The day we pass laws that confiscate the firearms from law abiding citizens. We are no longer America. Because, we would no longer be a country of the people by the people and for the people. We become a country of the Government by the government and for the government. COMMUNISM!!!!
I second the sentiment……..support our Constitution, as originally written, or move to Venezuela.
And who’s going to write a bill to protect us from ignorant politicians. Lindsey Graham is proving to be a another first class RINO. He’s setting things up to increase the suicide by cop ratings for sure. Stock up brothers and sisters, it’s going to be a bumpy ride before long.
Graham started out so bad with his Trump bashing,then he changed his tune and started backing him,now he has sided with the Demorats and Rubio and making up those Unconstitutional Red Flag Laws!He just cannot be trusted along with more Republicans! Sounds like the N.R.A.is backing these idiot laws also and notice how all the other Conservative talk shows and broadcasts DO NOT mention anything about these and who is in on them! In the Iowa Senate Republican Senators that ran their campaigns on Constitutional Carry,would not even bring it out of committee for a vote when these turncoats go elected! Watch out for betrayal !!
All that these ” red flag” laws do is allow illegal ways around our 2nd amendment rights . GOD forbid , but there soon may be another civil war and where are the poor unarmed LIBS going to run and hide ?
What ever happened to: I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion?
NOT TRY AND TEAR IT APART!!!!!!
Come on Lindsey “WAKE UP” one might expect this “CRAP” from Eric Sewerwell or Adam Shitt
but not Legit Republicans.
Lindsey you idiot, what the hell are you thinkin?! Of course you’ll make sure they go after the criminals with guns first like MS13, in the hoods and such and of course the illegals with guns, the drug runners? But no it’s directed against honest, legal, hard working people with no criminal record based on hearsay or some such excuses and take away guns from us, YOU SHIT FOR BRAINS I DON’T THINK SO! IF YOU DID GET THIS PASSED AND TRUMP WILL I’M SURE VETO IT AND IF HE DOESN’T THERE WILL BE ANOTHER FUKN WAR THAT WILL MAKE YOUR EMPTY HEAD SPIN!
Soooo little RINO Lindsey must not have heard about the pesky thing called DUE PROCESS…
RED FLAG LAWS ARE ONLY GET MORE PEOPLE HURT OR KILLED JUST BECAUSE SOME CHICKENSHIT NEIGHBOR HAS SOME KIND OF AN AXE TO GRIND AND WILL USE THESE LAWS TO TRY AND GET AT THEIR NEIGHBORS OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH. AND THIS TYPE OF A LAW ALSO PUTS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GRAVE DANGER, AND ALL OF THIS IS BASED ON SOMEONES SAY SO “NOT” ON ACTUAL FACTS AND PROOF.
Who but the illuminati, the socialists and all groups under the umbrella of the Globalists want to remove guns? Removal of guns will leave people defenseless against a takeover government. socialism is knocking on America’s door and it is. Operated by multi billionaires, who really don’t care squat about you and your family. In the last century over 50 million defenceless citizens died after their government accomplished gun control: the Soviet Union, Turkey, Germany, China, Guatemala, Uruguay and Cambodia.
Don’t forget Nazi Germany.
NAZI GERMANY; VENEZUELA; CUBA; CAMBODIA; CHINA; RUSSIA; NORTH KOREA; ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF COUNTRIES THAT HAVE FALLEN TO SOCIALIST COMMUNISM AND ANARCHY BY THE TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENTS WHERE ALL THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WERE “FORCED” TO GIVE UP THEIR GUNS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE LIBERAL SOCIALIST DEMO-RATS ARE TRYING TO DO TO “STEAL” OUR FREEDOM AND BECOME A DICTATORIAL CONTROLLING ELITIST GOVERNMENT OVER THE SLAVES AND ALL THE MONIES OF THE PEOPLE. “WAKE UP AMERICA” BEFORE THIS COUNTRY BECOMES ANOTHER VENEZUELA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lindsey Graham just turned on conservatives and 2nd amendment rights. You can no longer be supported as a conservative.
Looks like Graham wants the GOP to be the “Give In Party” when it comes to gun laws.
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